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I totally agree with you on all of that. Naughty Dog hasn't made a bad game and I love the fact that MGS stayed primarily focused on the one player aspect through out Snakes story but still provided multi player for those that wanted it. My friends and I talk about Trophies and Achievements all the time and have said the same thing. People dwell on the to the point where they are not even having fun anymore. The only game I've played so far where I thought the trophies were interesting enough to get was Flower.

Naughty Dog is a smart company, they've YET the make a bad game, I think we can be safe in the assumption that they know how to add a multiplayer experience without making it feeling useless or tacked on, it's the sam situation as MGS4 the Single player is most important and the multiplayer is an extension of their desire to extend the life of the product.

No not all games need multiplayer, I'll be the first to agree, but not all games need trophies either and you can go through my history and find the times I've gone on record with it, but they're all still providing these things. When the last Uncharted game out people DEMANDED death matches because they thought it should have been a natural addition to a game they focused on tense gun battle between individuals. If they didnt add it to this version when everyone and their grandmother is already expecting every game of this type to have it, the game would have been panned in reviews. In this day and age you cant get by just doing the things that used to get you by, you have to offer extra value/replay value or reviewers will trash your game regardless of the merits of the single player and any playstation 3 owner with a conspiracy theory mentality will claim that those reviewers were just waiting for a slip so they could rate the game a 7.

As far as Uncharted goes I stated that I was getting infamous but I wasn't playing the multiplayer because I wasn't interested. I like Uncharted don't get me wrong but what I hate is that it seems every developer is giving in to trends and may be adding multiplayer in games where it simply isn't neccessary. If they can make it good more power to them but I've seen a lot of games where the MP is terrible and tacked on for the sake of having it. I don't think this is the case here but it was a good time bring up the subject.

I never said it wasn't fun. That's just my personal opinion that the game was a dissapointment compared to the ones that came before it. You said just because I think something is so doesn't make it so. I'm no child I understand that. I just stated my opinion because it was mine to state. Everyone isn't going to agree with you no matter what your opinion is on a particular subject, I get that.

And yet all these things you use as "proof" are still largely your own personal feelings about the game, it's still selling millions of copies and it's still a fun game to actually play whether it's alone with the AI or with another human being as it was meant to be played to reach it's fullest potential. No it's not as cerebral as some previous games where but there are still puzzles and the action to thinking ratio is gear more towards the co-operative action mind set, that dosent make it a bad game simply a different one than you were expecting it to be.

Further this still has nothing to do with the original point I was making which is that just because a single player game has a multiplayer element added to it, that doesnt mean that the single player has to suffer for it. The Multiplayer in Uncharted 2 is not co-op, it's aseparate team versus and free for all death match, neither of which should have any effect on a game which made it's living on a strong single player experience.

I don't think my view on RE5 was short sighted. A lot of the fans and I mean people who have been fans of RE from early on saw problems with the game. As a game itself it's fine but as a RE game it doesn't even qualify. Everything that made that game unique was stripped out of it to compensate for the second player and the online co-op aspects as well. It was good but nothing more than a 3rd person shooter. Interesting Puzzles-Gone. Documents slowly unveiling a bigger picture-Gone. Story? Atrocious dis-fan service. Random bits of information that should have been properly implemented into the story randomly popping up on loading screens. The documents that were there were random at best. Wesker's an experiment? What a twist? Please. You finally take that sob down and who does it? Not Chris and Jill but Chris and one of the many new throw away characters that shouldn't have been introduced into a chapter that ended that particular saga. Run from point A to B and shoot shoot shoot.