lol if only we had TF then it'd be HD-what?

Tis a shame we don't get Transformers. I would have defo added that to the collection, Spider-Man will do for now though.

the studios that release hd dvd movies will stick with the format until there is no more money to be made off it. once hdtv becomes a standard in the majority of homes hd movies will "really" start selling and blu ray will win. why br? because atm br is far more popular and we live in a market where popularity and word of mouth help products flourish (i.e. halo3(sorry)). where i live whenever hi def is mentioned, 4/5 times its br. 2009 when all television becomes digital is when i think hdtv and hi def movies will really take off, becoming the standard, thus blu ray winning the war. and universal and paramount will sit there laughing at all the people who purchased their hd dvds because now they have to buy the blu ray versions. its smart business.

But didn't a boatload of HD-DVD players just sell? And the PS3 owners don't even know what blu ray is....  how is this possible.

Nice. That picture is old.

I don't think we'll know the true pictuire of the Hi-Def video wars for another year at least yet. While its true to state that there have been more HD-DVD standalone players sold (including the 360 add on) its also fair to point out that they have been on sale for longer. Sony's own research suggested 1 in 4 PS3 owners were aware of Blu-Ray films and had purchased one so at least  theres roughly 1 million sales of disks. Also at my local hi-end audio shop they've told me that the people buying Blu-Ray players have serious amounts of money to throw at the best possible home cinema set ups and want the best products, and have therefore got lots of cash to spend on films. Meanwhile at the other end of the scale the mass market just aren't interested, I'd personally like to see the attach rate for films to players ratio. Taking out PS3 sales of course because the HD-DVD camp don't like to include them in their figures ;)

It is interesting that the BD of Casino Royale did not make the top ten list.

I wonder how the HD camp is going to spin this one???  " well well we uh...ummm... We still have a larger attach rate cause most people do not know the PS3 can play BluRay yeah thats it".. Yeah I am pretty sure that is how they will do it..

Everything on that list is BD except Transformers.

I wonder what format Star Wars will eventually come out on? Lets hope its BlueRay!!

Paramount will bail out of HD-DVD when their $150MM, 18 month period is up.  They are not that stupid... Well, after watching the last 2 Star Trek films maybe they ARE stupid :).  Universal will also yield, probably sooner.  GE, the parent company, is focused on profits and backing a dead format doesn't help.

What is the big deal? You support your format because it's available in your console? Why would anyone want competing formats? It's confusing the customer and slowing down sales. Even Sony's CEO admits he wishes he could go back in time and unite the two formats... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/11/12/sony-ceo-wishes-for-time-travel-nexgen-dvd-collaboration/

wot the numbers mean?

Comparing the high def formats... http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_5546832_3/105-6028262-6216447?ie=UTF8&docId=1000140111&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0X14Z0WDME8WRY7QS8SX&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_p=316095601&pf_rd_i=1000140111#HDvsBR

I know tht blue will be the victor. I Know it will and this just proves tht there are really dumb people out there supporting hd-dvd.I mean what r they thinkin???
microdumb is deff gonna loose the high deff war get it!!!(deff)

I know tht blue will be the victor. I Know it will and this just proves tht there are really dumb people out there supporting hd-dvd.I mean what r they thinkin???
microdumb is deff gonna loose the high deff war get it!!!(deff)

NEXUS, you are an idiot... You seem to know the victor?! Maybe you could clue me in on stocks purchases! HD-DVD is not Microsofts format. They are backing it, but will support Blu-ray if HD fails. Why would HD users be "dumb"? Your lack of spelling certainly gives you credibility. If you'll look at the Amazon link that I posted earlier you'll see exactly how "dumb" you come accross!

Some how no matter how dominant Blu-ray is, the HD-DVD camp is going at it. Not sure how long its going to drag until Blu-ray movies cost as much as the current DVD's now. :E

psn id: gingo.... i really wish wish transformers was on blu ray but apart from that i dont really care about hd dvd because all the rest of the films i want are coming out on blu ray or both

paramount  was bribed, and they're kickin themselves right now.

This Hi-Def market share is a farce!  Lets look at the whole movie market, for the full picture and the figures go something like... DVD 90%, Video tape 3%, Blu Ray 4%, HD-DVD 2%...  so... the hi-def formats are squabbling over 6% total market share?  By 2009 both maybe overtaken by HiDef streaming movies, as Gates predicted many years ago, and maybe thats why MS may never bother with a HD player in the 360.  Games and movies maybe downloaded/streamed from servers, and such drives may soon be obselete anyway, they may have a place as personal storage mediums, but only via PCs.

spiderman is kicking a.. wow!!!

@ CHIMMY: I have to agree to an extent.....Yes the Hi Def DVD market is 6% while the DVD market is 90%. But...remember there are 2 seperate formats competing here... Unlike when DVD was released... it's competition was VHS... did it skyrocket right into its number one position??? NO! What did happen was an adoption period... Now you're comparing the Hi def disc format to the market share of DVD?? that's not really fair to the Hi Def market... Competing with a format that has been around for 12 years... The install base of DVD's is staggering.. I'm not saying if there was only one format that DVD would suffer.... but it would incorperate the "fence sitters" who chose to wait it out.... And if you think Hi def streaming movies are going to be the next thing by 2009, you may need to re-evalute your thoughts... Streaming 4+ gigs of HD data requires alot more than you might think let alone support multiple access... The adoption process may be alot slower for that than Hi Def disc... plus...what will happen to the people that like to own a copy?? with copyright protection laws, whose to say you will be able to burn your movie to disc?? and if you were... you would need a hi def disc format anyway.

Paramount just had to pull out when Transformers was comin out, didn't they?

You guys forget,we could just buy the DVD version of Transformers,and upscale it.

@Drazden- you too are correct, in that if there was just a single format then maybe adoption rates would be higher, but at the end of the day, most people haven't bought into HiDef, and it will remain that way for some time.  There was a latter comment about upscaling, and although the quality won't be as good as native HiDef, the majority will be happy with that solution, so even for those that want to clutter up their homes with physical media, I don't see HiDef taking any significant market share away from DVD.  2009 maybe an over-exaggeration, but networks are gearing up for it, and by the time HIDef does start making any in-roads into the DVD market share, I suspect streaming will make bluRay and HD-DVD obselete.  Time will tell.  Though as far as I recall the DVD adoption rate was pretty staggering wasn't it?  After just 2 years it pretty much dominated over VHS (I think), but the advantages were obvios, this time round (with upscaling) it's a little more subtle.

@ Chimmy: Agreed...There will come a time of Hi Def streaming....unfortunately I am of the "physical media" group and will be at least a little saddened as well as excited at the onset of hi def streaming....I do appreciate progress and innovation, why else would I be an early adopter of PS3, blu ray and the like... Technology is my vice. I also agree that a majority of the populace enjoys an upscaled version of their current dvd library, however, unbeknownst to the majority is that it truly cannot be enjoyed until you venture into the HD relm... Invest in that widescreen 1080p TV or even 720p if you like.... but please (to the populace, not you chimmy), don't say that upscaled dvd's look the same, especially when you are watching it on your 8 year old big screen 4:3 tv. As for me... I will have another space on my equipment rack for the hi def streaming electronics, when it arrives.... hopefully in 20 + years... hahaha...

Good news for Sony;